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@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @admin the #geekproblem is complex and to find "usefull" tools the value judgments are a balance not black or white. Discuss.

@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @witchescauldron @admin

Sure, which is one of the many reasons we recommend Briar extensive above Signal, and mention Signal for less than a paragraph. The only downside for Briar is that it's Android only. If you have other recommendations for E2E Encrypted messaging apps that work for both iOS and Android, I'd love to hear about them. Wire has its own set of problems.

@joeterranova @admin @witchescauldron i'm not sure why you'd have to recommend anything, but if you must then #jami avoids all of Signal's security issues. If you must have near-Signal functionality, then even Session is a clear improvement over Signal.

@admin Shady. Lots of flags on Briar. Their website lists Open Technology Fund as a funder. OTF is literally the state-propaganda arm of the US Govt. Briar uses Tor network- another govt surveillance tool. I like this not

@Mars2Sirius @admin Certainly willing to listen to alternatives. Tor was made by the US Govt to hide their agents' internet usage, but it was useless without getting other people on. Briar is obviously USGovt supported because it's in their interest to help destablize their adversary's govts, but that doesn't mean they have the ability to stop it being used domestically too, same as Tor.

@Mars2Sirius @admin
Can god create a burrito so spicy even she cannot eat it? Probably not. But the US Govt needs to create tools so foolproof even they cannot break them, because otherwise Russia and China certainly would too. Unless you have alternatives as secure, I wouldn't write Tor and Briar off easily.

@joeterranova @Mars2Sirius @admin

If God can make a wheel barrow that can straddle a mud puddle then *he* can certainly do a transgenderbender and then she can make such a burrito - easy peasy!

After that, she can can do a transspeciespiecies and become a mouse that hunts and eats Bobcats :)

Bottom line, if you can think of it then it's totally NOT impossible lolz.

And if you're wondering which came first, the chicken or the egg, the correct answer happens to be - the egg, of course :)

@joeterranova @admin Lol but I sure love me a spicy burrito! The US govt creates such tools exclusively for social control. I wouldn't write off US imperialism so easily. Personally I don't have need or use for Tor, and others are free to choose what they want. I won't trust it or any political org that relies on it. I must protect myself from retaliation as best I could. Frankly I'm not aware of any safer alternatives but there should be, the public deserves it

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